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Statue Criteria

On August 11th-12th, a ‘Unite the Right’ Rally took a violent turn after white supremacist groups clashed with counter protesters ranging from members of Antifa, an anti-fascist group that is dedicated to “supporting oppressed people” and fighting “the amassing of wealth by corporations and elites” (Jessica Suerth, CNN.com) and ordinary civilians when a car plowed into a crowd of counter protesters. The incident left a woman dead and over a dozen injured. What were the groups fighting over? A statue. After the incident, Bill De Blasio, the mayor of New York City, said on Twitter, “After the violent events in Charlottesville, New York City will conduct a 90-day review of all symbols of hate on city property.” With this action, a question has been in the minds of many Americans: What about the person, group, or ideal should be taken into consideration when creating a new statue or monument? The person’s impact on a certain event in American or world history should be taken into consideration when statues in America are being created. The individual(s) should also be relevant to the area that their statue/monument will be placed. A final piece of criteria would be taking into consideration why an individual may be celebrated by different people.

Every monument or statue dedicated to someone or a group has some sort of historical or religious significance. The statues that don’t represent people will usually represent a certain ideal. For example, the Statue of Liberty, a gift from France, was a symbol of democracy, enlightenment ideals, and the abolishment of slavery in America. But, as with many monuments, the meaning and story behind quite a few statues are interpreted differently by many. For the majority of those 14 million immigrants that entered America between the years of 1886 and 1924, the Statue of Liberty represented not democracy and the abolishment of slavery, but a sign of ‘welcome’ that told them they were about to begin their new lives. It’d be quite difficult to argue that the Statue of Liberty is a symbol of hate, so we’ll mention a famous controversial symbol: the Confederate Flag. The Confederate Flag is seen by many Americans as a symbol of hate. Conversely, Americans in the south see it as simply part of American (specifically in the south) history and a form of southern pride. What is called the Confederate Flag is a battle flag, it is what confederate troops marched to, fought in the name of, and died alongside during the Civil War. Some southerners celebrate the flag to pay homage to their ancestors that fought for a cause they believe in whether the cause was just or unjust, and that’s reason to celebrate in itself. (Ben Jones for NYpost) It is, however, important to explicitly state that modern American values are not that of the values of the Confederacy. What should be supported is the spirit of fighting for a cause and the celebration of ancestors, not the archaic philosophies that have proved to be outdated and generally looked down upon. The Confederate flag can not only serve as historic symbolism, but an ode to revolution. The Confederate flag is significant to American history and there’s no denying that fact. Though the symbols may still be flown in support of unjust and immoral actions or beliefs, keep your mind open as to what else the flag may mean to others.

The removal of statues in America isn’t a new phenomenon. Jacey Fortin from the New York Times claims that “just five days after the Declaration of Independence was ratified…soldiers tore down a gilded statue of King George III in Manhattan.” The toppling of the statue was in the name of defiance to an old ruler. With that statue destroyed, the patriots felt a bit freer.  Another statue is at risk of being toppled. At the center of national controversy is the Robert E Lee statue in Charlottesville, Virginia. Lee was a general in the Civil War on the side of the Confederacy and was widely known for his military expertise. Some believe that Robert E. Lee is undeserving of a monument because of his position on slavery (in support of it) during the Civil War and because of that, he is a symbol of hate. Because he is considered a hate symbol for some, he is one of many controversial figures facing threats of the toppling of monuments and the renaming of places that were previously dedicated to and named after him. Because of the fact that we as humans have emotional impulses, I believe it is very important to look at what history an individual brings to a specific place. For example, Robert E. Lee was a prominent figure in the Civil War, and he was known for being from and representing Virginia during the Civil War. Residents of southern states are usually proud of the statues they have, not just because of the aesthetics of the monuments, but because the monument makes the state of Virginia – and in this case Charlottesville, VA – historically significant.

When it comes to monuments being divisive, the only “fair” way to deal with a statue is to keep it where it is or to either transfer it to a museum or destroy it. So, in light of the recent events, many polls were done to assess how Americans felt about Confederate monuments. A poll done by Marist College found that 44 percent of African Americans, 65 percent of Latinos, and 65 percent of white Americans believe that the Confederate monuments should remain as they are for the sake of historic symbolism. Eleven percent of African Americans said they’re unsure while 40 percent said to remove the statues. Twenty-four percent of Latino Americans and twenty-five percent of whites said that they could be taken down, respectively. While that poll was done after a racially fueled incident in 2017, another poll was done by CNN on the 26th-28th of July 2015, 10 days after the Charleston church shooting by Dylan Roof. After the shooting, images of Dylan Roof posing with a gun and the Confederate circulated on the internet, portraying the flag in a very negative light. Despite this, the poll found that 57% of Americans oppose “redesigning state flags that feature Confederate emblems or symbols to remove references to the Confederacy”. This shows that even today most Americans, in the face of a demoralizing situation would still allow the flag to be flown or for statues to remain because of not only their historical aspects, but because of what they main mean to those in the south.

In all, the historical importance, the location of a monument relative to their impact on an area, and how a certain symbol can be interpreted should be criteria when evaluating statues. One cannot simply think about all of a person’s faults in their evaluations because then one can argue that Martin Luther King Jr. doesn’t deserve a statue because he cheated on his wife and is therefore an immoral figure. I say that the person’s historical impact, be it by way of discovering land like Columbus, fighting for civil rights like MLK, or even by creating military strategies like Robert E. Lee, is the most important thing to pay attention to when considering these statues and monuments for removal. It’s also just as important to have the location of the statue/monument coincide with the person’s historical endeavors (areas they were known for occupying or where they were born) as it wouldn’t make much sense for there to be a Henry Ward Beecher statue in Montana if he never impacted that area. Finally, how someone interprets a symbol is important. Yes, people use the confederate flag when committing acts of violence, but that doesn’t mean that it’s a symbol that only incites violence. For some, the American flag represents unity and freedom; for others, it represents the very evils that corrupt this world such as greed and narcissism. In cases like this, it’s just a matter of perspective.

 

Works Cited

“Americans take a stand: Leave ’em up.” The New York Post. (August 18, 2017 Friday ): 167 words. LexisNexis Academic. Web. Date Accessed: 2017/10/10.

Blasio, Bill de. “Charlottesville.” Twitter, Twitter, 16 Aug. 2017, twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/897926610271166464.

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Jones, Ben. “The New York Times Company.” The New York Times, The New York Times,www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/06/19/does-the-confederate-flag-breed-racism/the-confederate-flag-is-a-matter-of-pride-and-heritage-not-hatred

Randall, Amber. “POLL: Most Black Americans Don’t Want Confederate Statues Removed.”The Daily Caller, The Daily Caller, 17 Aug. 2017,  dailycaller.com/2017/08/17/poll-most-black-americans-dont-want-confederate-statues-removed/.

“Robert E. Lee.” Civil War Trust, Civil War Trust, www.civilwar.org/learn/biographies/robert-e-lee.

Suerth, Jessica. “What Is Antifa?” CNN, Cable News Network, 17 Aug. 2017, www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html.

 

“The Immigrant’s Statue.” National Parks Service, U.S. Department of the Interior, www.nps.gov/stli/learn/historyculture/the-immigrants-statue.htm.

We should review the removal of monuments critically

     Monuments have been around ever since 1890, which was a hundred year after the United States are founded. Some monuments are statues that were builded by our society and some are naturally formed. Monuments held a specific meaning behind each one of them which makes the monument more unique. In the past hundred years, the amount of monuments raised rapidly which occurred controversy between the communities. Every monuments has a purpose of being where it is regardless if it’s just for show or not. With that thought, there is no reason for the monument to be removed due to someone’s opinions about the monument meaning. When we review a petition of a monument being removed, we should review it critically and if it’s reasonable enough.

     Ever since monuments existed, the debates between whether it should stay or being removed gave the society a big question mark. Since each monument have an individual meaning, the thought of it being removed should be carefully determined by the government. On the other hand, if a community can not thought of a good reason for it to be take down, then it should not be proceed. If the government wants to build a new monument statues, the project should be view critically base on the background meaning, area which mean the community and cost to prevent conflicts. One reason why monument should be kept is because it teaches us lessons of the past. In an article call Why we shouldn’t pull down all those confederate memorials by Alfred L. Brophy, it states “Primarily, there’s a danger that we’ll forget the connections of past racial crimes to correct racial inequality.” If we get rid of the statues, how can we learn about the mistakes or the achievements we have in the past? Think back to Grade school, we have field trip to many different types of statues for a better understanding of the lesson we have. One important thing  people forgot about is that removing a statues cost money, who’s going to pay for the expense?

     Many people acknowledge facts that some monument statues are inappropriate for the public to be seen. They claim that some statues reminds everyone America’s dark history. It’s such a big debate because some citizen agrees that its distributing however some state that  remembering our history reminds us not to make the same mistake again. One dark history I’m really interested in is the discrimination of African American. It was a dark age for all the African Americans, they were force to bought on ship and being sold in the market. Theres no education being provided for them and the only place they get to eat, live in is their master’s house, who they work for and who bought them in the market with money. The situation change when Martin Luther King interfere telling the world everyone should be treated equally, because of his action, protesting started to happen, slavery was slowly dying out. In honor of Martin Luther King, the African American community builded a statues to remind the next generation who gave new lives to the race, however, I’ve seen lots of comments and posts wanting the statues to be removed.

     The removal of Martin Luther King’s statues should not be proceed. Behind the monument, it contains meaning of the past our country went through. Other race claim that the monument is “racist” and “offensive” while the statues just placed there to resemble the past. I found a petition online about the reasons why we should removed the statues, the person said “we the people feel that is it honoring and supporting racial hatred towards white people.” Martin Luther King plays a major part in the history, honoring him should be allow. I understand some monument can be offensive toward a specific group of race but it should not be the main reason why a monument can be taken down because of that. There’s not a good reason that’s being given to the public for us to agree it should be removed.

     If the statues of Martin Luther King is taken down due to racism then I believe African American have the right to revolt and start a petition to take down George Washington and Thomas Jefferson’s monument. George Washington is United State’s first president but he’s also a slave owner and so is Thomas Jefferson. In the article call Don’t Take Down Confederate Monuments. Here’s why by Sophia A. Nelson, she states “the people who hated having black classmates at their school didn’t hate us because there were statues of Robert E. Lee or George Washington (our nation’s first president and a slave owner
 If we start taking statues down, well, we better go for old Thomas Jefferson (master of a slave who was his mistress and mother of at least four of his children). And lets not forget President Trump’s favorite president, Old Hickory—Andrew Jackson. Another slave-holding Indian-killing president of our nation.” If Martin Luther King’s statues expresses racism towards a specific race then these president’s statues is doing the same thing. African American’s personal feelings of these statues should be the same as the others who wants to removed the Martin Luther King’s statues. If we review the petition, we should ask, if the reason is good enough to convince the community and the government. On the other hand, removing it because some people feel offended, then it should not be process because it’s affecting only a specific group or person, not the whole society.

     Monuments are for the next generation to remember the historical events that happened. If we choose to take some of it down because of some reasons then how should the next generation learn about our past? No matter how negative a historical event can be, we have to learn to face them, not to run away from them. We need to learn our lesson from our past to make our present wiser.

Work cited:

Article: De Blasio’s begging for trouble with his ‘monuments review’

Author: Post Editorial Board

Time posted: September 8, 2017

 

Article: Don’t take down the confederate monument. Here’s why

Author: Sophia. A. Nelson

Time posted: October 9, 2017

 

My Late Thoughts On Project #2

I think this project is a great idea. I like starting conversations about controversial topics in the news. It’s great that it happens in the classroom because conversations between peers are quite often the most productive. I personally think Monuments shouldn’t be destroyed or taken down. Taking down a monument is like erasing history, and the only way to make sure mistakes aren’t repeated are to remember our past mistakes. I think the U.S. states could take a lesson from Italy. In Italy instead of tearing down monuments, people are incredibly petty. They build a larger more magnificent statue close by the monument they dislike. An example is in one of Florence’s plazas, Piazza della Signoria. Inside the square there are a lot of statues, but the one people dislike the most is the copy of Michael Angelo’s David. Instead of tearing the statue down Bartolommeo Bandinelli created the Fountain of Neptune, a statue twice as big as the copy that stared down the copy of Michael Angelo’s David.

In general I’m excited for this project and being able to interact with my classmates to explore the area around City tech and hopefully further.