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For design strategies I really like the garden idea and I was wondering what would that bring to the people, like will the public be able to get food from there or will it be like a show and tell type of garden to show the people about gardens. Also I think a lot of your ideas are already in the plan for the 14-mile waterfront but it’s good to see that your thinking the same ideas as the designers.
Yes the garden was already existing but not necessarily a garden i mean there is a variety of things that can be done such as a artificial lake or some gaming area or a bbq area that is placed according to the comfort of where people don’t want too much or too little exposure to the water, the sun, the view, etc.
Oh! okay! yeah I understand, that’s acually a really good idea. My group (History morning) went to Pier 6 and we notice that they had like a fast food place but nothing like a bbq. But they did have this building which was well covered from the sun but had like a garge type of windows and opened all the way up I think it would be really cool to do something like that but that didn’t feel like you were inside a building (cause it was pretty dark) I know Pier 6 was not what we looked at but I just thought it would be a good idea. I think I have some pictures and I’ll show you what I mean.
oh ok no problem yes i’d like to see those pictures i don’t think i’ve ever been to Pier 6
the am group mentioned open space as a liability i think it offers a positive impact on micro climate since it offers space for trees and plants to cool the area.
It goes both ways we concluded.. I agree it offers a positive impact on microclimate because there can be more people coming to enjoy the day but think also of how it can a liability people may mistake it for ‘wasteland’ if we design according to sustainability and attractiveness they could be something done to have a balance with open space and sustainability.
I like the idea of following a comfort route depending on the climate. I think what you guys should think now is how would you show people which way to follow in the day. Maybe you guys should create a phone app. in which the routes are change by hour per day according to the weather, or a map which can be read by temp.
A good idea. Sounds like a combination of a weather app and GPS, but programming such an application might be complex. Still I am liking the idea of an app that could tell me how cold or shady a specific street might be in, say December compared to July.
To geury; we totally agree that green open spaces offer positive impact in microclimate. I guess we should have specified in the presentation, we did mention it as a liability thinking about unused pavement open spaces, as the one under the Manhattan Bridge near to the waterfront.
The AM presentation was not presented on a more attractive and more professional way. It was very repetitive. You might have just categorized your field photos and make very short notes. I did not see your climate topic design strategies very focused from your inventory, assets and liabilities. It would have been better to state the different types of microclimates on the downtown brooklyn and add the advantages or disadvantages then make better design strategies also try to use technical words for the purpose of presentation. Print screening was not very appealing to see from my opinion. You can be more detailed and specific about the problems and how to solve it.
Thank you for taking the time to comment. The goal of us using the bullet points and short notes was to ensure that the presentation didn’t run on for too long. We were planning on explaining the tidbits of information ourselves rather than putting everything up all at once so the audience would focus on us rather than reading the slides. If the information was not succinct enough, then we will make sure to take your advice and organize it in a better way.
I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation (pm class), and being able to review it again. I like how you guys particularly pointed out things that I found particularly stressful during my visit, such as the lack of shade and pointing out the vast areas that could provide it if needed. With that being said, I feel like your circulation strategies are lacking. You guys pointed out so many great things of climate, but the circulation strategies were very bland and basic. I would suggest trying to focus on that most importantly.
hi! why you don’t research about how the climate affects or changes the waterfront depending on each season and how to even in winter make the waterfront popular for people to go there.
You make a good point when you say to take into consideration the different seasons near the waterfront. I believe that to we could materials in certain areas near the waterfront that absorb heat so that it wouldn’t be so cold in the winter. Concrete is a good material in the summer but we mentioned that the use of granite would be suitable for the winter because it absorbs a lot of specific urban heat.
That is true. Since winter is approaching, I believe it’s time for us to go do some on field research.
(second PowerPoint) The slides are well organized. i like the way your group elaborated on the micro climate observation question. One suggestion is to consider the different season (fall,winter,spring,summer) how does the season affect the circulation?
Well that depends on the placement of buildings and and where exactly the trees are placed.. maybe the trees can serve as a design element to lead the people in a certain direction.
For the AM group, I like the ideas of adding more trees and that sort of vegetation, but do you think there’s a way to combine your design strategies to circulation strategies ? Meaning can the artificial pond also be surrounded by a garden resting area? Or do you intend them to be different?
Well of course it can be done. anything is possible. Certainly the design strategies that most of the groups of climate and circulation and others as well are similar.. We can use the water as a design element to guide the people to walk in a certain way that’s one way to incorporate both together. Water is the most important element that many seem to notice but it can do so much for us
Of course there are ways to incorporate micro-climate to coincide or even enhance the circulation. I believe it’s time we had a chat with the circulation team.
I really like the circulation strategies to utilize the use of trees on both sides and build sun shelter in open spaces because on the day of the field trip we were all really hot which made us very uncomfortable.
Yes and we actually looked up specific trees that are called Cornifeous trees that shade in the summer so it fits to everyone’s comfort.
To annette, i like the idea of a phone app that can pick up on which route to take depending on the climate that is a good design strategy as well.. We can tie this in with the circulation group.
First climate presentation. For me this presentation was well done, I really like the way you guys have managed the information acording to the differents parts of the site also how you used the pictures to point out where is climate really affeting (I like you pictures), is also well understandable the impact of climate in the different areas of the site. But for next time I suggest to take in consideration the impact of climate in the different seasons of the year.
Thank you it’s kind of hard to say what the weather and people’s actions would be like in different seasons but we could get a general idea and think in terms of what we would do for our comfort and maybe think back to a time to how you moved according to how you felt the breeze or the sun hitting you, etc š
Second climate presentation. I think this presentation is good organized but it needs more information and details of how is climate affecting the different parts along the water front, try to keep focus in your topic and show more pictures explain them as well.
Frist Climate Presentation: I like the presentation showed shaded areas for people to stay cool. However, I am wondering what would be the remedy for windy or winter season, so that people would enjoy the park all four seasons.
My group discussed planting a few deciduous trees in the windy sections in the park that aren’t usually populated in the winter. This would both block the cold winds and bring traffic to a otherwise uncomfortable area in the winter. We are also considering angled sunshelters that would block the harmful sun in the summer but allow sunlight in the low bearing winter seasons.
Coniferous trees*
Second Climate Presentation: the team listed building, cobblestone, gravel and granite as assets, but these items could also be considered as liability. For example: buildings if too close may cause stronger wind; if rain or snow, stone surface maybe slippery and cause microclimate change during evaporation process.
well, you are correct. But it all depends on how you see their functions, buildings can cause strong winds, reason of why we suggested to add trees to deflect wind in this kind of conditions, but also provide a great amoount of shade in the summer. Cobblestone may get slippery in certain conditions, as do other materials. but cobblestone requires less maintenance, can last forever and gives an old look to the park, which is a benefit for the design. About microclimate, i dont think it has a negative effect, since is a permeable paving.
Like what my fellow team mate commented, yes these can also be considered a liability but they do serve as an asset also, depending on the season. We have already begun to discuss how we can counteract the liabilities of the materials you’ve listed with a mixture of other materials with an opposite effect.
The waterfront is much cooler than the rest of the city. The gardens in the waterfront help against heat island effect. wish we can see this throughout the whole city.
I like both presentation and i did not know that open grass areas can drown out sound I think that the chart in group 1 was good to point out the different climate of each month. it would be nice to have a map that shows wind direction and different temperature.
I really liked the interactive map on the AM’s project, I felt that it really created a better understanding of the area
As far as the am class goes, can you guys specify a little more about your design strategies? Such as, where would you suggest the addition of more greenery. And when it comes to these old buildings to be renovated, which buildings are you speaking of?
Thanks for your input Jeremy, what you stated is part of our next step. We will get into more detail soon on how we plan to utilize our design strategies.
How the basketball and handball courts under the bridge will help with the climate?
Thanks everyone for the comments and suggestions. Iām sure your comments will help us (team) do the final presentation better than the first one. Hopefully with all your design suggestions we will also come with a good proposal solution to the current issues in the waterfront.
hello teams, I am in the sustainability group. Do you guys have any percentage of rainfall level in the waterfront area by the brooklyn bridge for every season?? It will helpful for us to determine how to collect all the rainwater from one direction and use that for our ideas in the DUMBO neighborhood.
http://dumbonyc.com/2007/10/31/lpc-dumbo-hearing/
please take a look at this website. for those who are thinking to demolish either of the old buildings. Little did you know, there are 91 old buildings landmarked by the city. You might take a different approach towards your design strategies.