You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
- 10.31.16 EXTRA (optional) Response
-
October 31, 2016 at 10:46 am #39890
Nora AlmeidaParticipantIn response to The Forgotten Streams of New York.
Why were many waterways in NYC diverted or put underground? How were decisions to put waterways underground related to the development of the railroad and other industrial advances?
October 31, 2016 at 9:04 pm #39914
Joyce TamParticipantIn the article “The Forgotten Streams of New York” by Steven Duncan, it speaks about how many waterways in NYC were diverted or put underground because it was unable to supply the rapidly growing populations of New York. As “modern industrialization” started sprouting up in New York, many discarded their wastes into these water streams which lead to a lot of pollution. Originally used as transportation routes, the development of railroads eventually took over and steam and eventually electrical power took over water power. They agreed that putting the waterways underground will allow more land above ground for more grounds for buildings. Most waterways was re-purposed from as a line of supply of fresh drinking water to a system for sewage wastes and even some waterways such as the Collect Pond was eventually shut off and buried underground. Some of the infrastructures were “remnants of buildings constructed when the streams still ran above the ground.”
October 31, 2016 at 9:58 pm #39918
DgeorgeParticipantMany waterways had been put underground because in early days it was vital in which, it had been beneficial to people and had helped reduce the use of electricity. In fact, these waterways had provided transportation routes allowing people to get to where they needed to go in a timely manner. These waterways had also given water power for grain mills, sawmills, bounty of fish and also drinking water. One issue with these waterways was that it tended to become polluted due to the increase in population overtime. Decisions to put waterways underground had sparked the development of the railroad and other industrial advances in which the waterways had started the use of transportation and had helped people come up with the idea of railroads. Putting the waterways underground had allowed more land above ground providing more grounds for the buildings. From the video we seen in class today, I was interested in how Steve Duncan had the courage to explore through these waterways and especially, be able to climb on top of Williamsburg bridge.
October 31, 2016 at 10:26 pm #39922
SIN FONG CHIUParticipantAs the New York city grow in size and industries increase in number in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, it lost great freshwater streams like Tibbets Brook, the Minetta Brook in Manhattan, Sunswick Creek in Queens, and Wallabout Brook in Brooklyn. The idea of electivity power and railroad transportation were much important than water power, and freshwater steams. Many steams were re-channeled into sewer lines. A few industrial buildings that spanned the stream. Today, the city begin with a “daylighting” project which allows an small above-ground steam through a park again.
October 31, 2016 at 11:43 pm #39923
Maryse MauriceParticipant“The forgotten Stream of New York City”, by Steve Duncan discusses how waterways were diverted or put underground because many of small streams were insufficient for the growing populations. As Duncan states in the article, “overtime, though, many of these small streams became inadequate for the growing populations that had sprouted up on their banks, and instead of supplying freshwater, they became polluted nuisances. The decisions to put waterways underground was a way to create more buildable land above, and also use the idea as transportation routes.
October 31, 2016 at 11:47 pm #39924
Jesus MendozaParticipantThe waterways of New York City were once wonderful sights often times used for transportation. As soon as New York became flooded with new people this system began to change. The streams as well as other waterways soon became sources of pollution and no longer served a purpose other than for mills to dump their waste into. The city then began to take action, it was either change the direction of the waterways or hide them completely underground and use them as sewage. This would also be a major contribution to future urban planning. With the waterways now underground new buildings could soon be built on top. The lack of waterways also gave an edge to the use of railroads and may have also sparked a new idea on where to put the railroad. Although the waterways would have probably been a much nicer sight within the city, the covering of these waterways did contribute to the development of New York City.
October 31, 2016 at 11:59 pm #39925
Richard LokParticipantAs the water streams were crucial for providing food and power, the growing population soon caused these streams to become polluted. During the industrialization era in the 19th century, those streams were transformed to railroad routes. It also replaced its use of water power into electric power. Eventually all these streams were placed underground and altered to sewers and drains in order to build land above. The water powered sawmill built by Adriaen van der Donck provided power to a small village in the Yonkers of 1855. In order to expand its use, the stream under the sawmill (Sawmill River) grew with the development of bridges and buildings. It became a primary transportation in and out of the city until the railroad and industrialization grew rapidly. Ultimately, concrete tunnels were built around those streams leaving very little visible.
November 1, 2016 at 9:58 am #39927
Noorul AinParticipantThe Article “The Forgotten Streams of New York” talks about the waterways that were put underground. In the article author wrote about, how in early days of New York city Many small water streams in the villages and towns had the good routes for transportation. And over the time growing population and development in industrial areas made waterways polluted and not drinkable and some streams that once were providing drinking water became sewers and drains, so it was important to put waterways underground. Also, in the nineteen century the trains took over the waterways because they were covering the best routes for railroads. And in some places it was necessary to put them underground so the land they are covering can be used to make building.
November 23, 2016 at 10:55 pm #40266
Deven GuerreroParticipantThe article “The Forgotten Streams of NY” by Steven Duncan discusses why streams were placed underground. According to Steven Duncan, one reason why streams were placed underground is because, “many of these small streams became inadequate for the growing populations that had sprouted up on their banks, and instead of supplying freshwater, they became polluted nuisance.” During the 18th and 19th century, not only did the population in NY grow, but more businesses and structures were being built. Placing streams underground allowed people and investors to create more land space for businesses which is beneficial for those in seek of a job and opportunity. Second, placing streams underground resulted in a safer environment. Reasons for the polluted areas in New York is derived from industrialization where factories and industrial areas polluted the exposing water stream which became a hazard for the people to drink. Lastly, with water streams placed underground, there was more space for buildings to be built.
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.