ENG 1121 English Composition II OL 44 (30314)

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  • Apr. 8 Practice quoting
  • #93631

    Prof. Masiello
    Participant

    This long document is a copy of something we looked at on April 4. Consider it a review until the last two pages. On the last two pages
    you are to create a quote from the sentence I singled out for you using styles A,B,C (all direct quotes with the same quote and the tag in various places).

    Also, show how you would use style D. paraphrase, in which you reword the quote, change the punctuation, since there are no quote marks needed, and the reference still has to go at the end.

    Review of quoting methods a,b,c, and d. Suggest you print this to use again.
    You will end up writing the same quote four different ways (post them on CANVAS).
    For direct quoting of less than four lines of type, you may use one of these styles, (a) (b) or (c):

    a. tag (introducer) before quote:

    Joe Smith says, “Xxxxxxxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx” ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period. ex. (18).
    or

    b. tag follows quote:
    “ Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx,” says Joe Smith ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period.
    or
    c) tag interrupts quote

    “Xxxxxxxxxxxx x xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxx,” says Joe Smith, “xxxxxxxxxxx xxxx xx xxxxxxxxxmsijsij xx” ( ).
    “They advertise in about a thousand magazines […] some hotshot guy on a horse jumping over a fence” (Salinger 2).

    Holden says that his school advertises in numerous magazines showing a conceited young model fence jumping on a horse
    Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period.
    _______________________________________________________________________
    NOTE: When you talk about a fictional person, feel free to discuss him by his first name, his last name, or his full name. However, when you discuss a real person (an artist, writer, director, painter, musician, athlete, etc.) you must only use his last name or his full name. Unless you know him personally, it is inappropriate to say, for example, William if you mean William Shakespeare, while you can say Harry if you mean Harry Potter.
    Styles a, b, c, and d (above) will be practiced using the article reprinted below.
    a) tag (introducer) before quote, the quote, and the reference:
    a.______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ (post on OpenLab)
    Joe Smith says, “Xxxxxxxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx” ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period. ex. (18).
    Now try the exact same quote using the tag AFTER the quote, style (b) above.
    b) tag follows quote:
    example: “ Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx” xxxxxxx,” says Joe Smith ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period.
    Note that the reference always goes last, and the needed period DOES not occur until the very end, not at the end of the quote.
    b.______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ (post on OpenLab or email to me)
    Now try the exact same quote with the tag interrupting the quote. Pay attention to the effects on the punctuation:
    c) tag interrupts quote

    example: “Xxxxxxxxxxxx x xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxx,” says Joe Smith, “xxxxxxxxxxx xxxx xx xxxxxxxxxmsijsij xx” ( ).
    Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period. When you resume the interrupted quote, you do NOT have to capitalize.
    c.______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ (post on OpenLab)
    d) Now the same quote again but as a paraphrase:
    Note, when you change words, or paraphrase, you no longer need quote marks, but how does your reader know where your words end, and the other person’s thoughts begin?
    That means you must have the tag before the paraphrase, and the end reference shows where the paraphrase ended. NOTE: IF YOU OMIT QUOTES, YOU DO NOT USE THE SEPARATING COMMA. IT IS SUGGESTED TO ADD THE WORD “that” BEFORE THE PARAPHRASE.
    They are, She is They run She runs
    Method D Paraphrasing is also called indirect quoting.
    Try paraphrasing the same sentence you worked on above:
    One writer explains that at this point you try to change all the words and retain the original idea (Sherber). Please fill in your version where there are italics.
    Please remember that paraphrasing is indirect quoting which does the following:

    • Retains the ideas,
    • Does not use quote marks.
    • Follows the tag with “that” rather than a separating comma.
    • Without a page, uses the last name in parenthesis.
    • Has the last name in parenthesis or the tag, but not both.
    d.______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ (post on OpenLab)
    tag follows quote:

    “ Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx” xxxxxxx,” says Joe Smith ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period.
    Note that the reference always goes last, and the needed period DOES not occur until the very end, not at the end of the quote.
    Now try the exact same quote with the tag interrupting the quote. Pay attention to the effects on the punctuation:
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    The last two pages start below:

    Please create a quote as if you were using the bolded sentence from the following article:
    No page number is provided, like when you find articles online.
    It is not necessary to read the entire article, but you might gain some insight from it.
    ____________________________________
    “WHY MOVIES WILL NEVER REPLACE BOOKS”
    BY JOHN SCHERBER
    Movies have been with us for about 115 years now. Their charm is obvious––movement, sound, color, the impact of constantly changing visuals. Some even offer 3-D. Aren’t they about the most stimulating entertainment possible? The violence especially is often more than you could ever imagine or would want to. With all this, why would anyone bother to pick up a book anymore?
    Books are your grandmother’s entertainment, and you can put as many greats before the grand as you want. They are old stuff. They are black and white; they are lines of print that vary only in length. Sitting on the shelf, you have to dust them periodically, and in humid climates, they get moldy. Furthermore, they’re expensive. Only the airport racks furnish paperbacks that are about the same price as a movie ticket. Then there are the times when you have to go to your online dictionary to look up a word you don’t know. Movies never make you work like that. You don’t even have to think.
    Look up at the screen; every square inch of space is filled. Nothing is left out, nothing is blank. You are shown what the director feels you need to see, because the theater is darkened and nothing else is available to look at. What to feel and how to express it is demonstrated to you, as the actors portray their emotions. If you see a movie on television that you saw in the theater five years ago, that movie has not changed, although you have.
    Here’s the difference: the book you are reading has air in it. The author has left elastic spaces for you to insert your own reactions and experience, whether small or large. (this sentence–>) The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength. <– (that sentence) The inability of a book to be visual, only to stimulate you visually, is a huge plus. You are not only able, but you are also required to fill in the blanks to enjoy the book. Reading is a participatory experience in a way that movies can never be.
    You, the reader, are at the writer’s shoulder creating the book page by page. The writer has done his best to imply, suggest, stimulate, evoke, and hint, but every touch of his pen is incomplete. It begs you to add actions and feelings you’ve experienced, with the subtleties that only your mind and personality can bring. The author will etch on the page the smells, the tastes, and colors that bloomed in his mind as he wrote, but you will bring your own twist and nuance to each of them. Each book is different to each of its readers.
    Unlike in the movie, where you leave with the ringing of explosions still haunting your ears, you finish a book with the awareness of having worked at it, a sense of fulfillment and achievement. The author has made you contribute to this effort, and as a result, you are the coauthor, if not of the book itself, then of your experience of the book. Properly done, the book will leave you thinking that you’re ready to go on another journey with this writer, because it’s been rewarding in ways you hadn’t anticipated. Where will he take you next time? It’s as if you’re already packed and ready to go.
    And when you read this book once more, five years later, or ten, it will be a different book again and a different journey, although the words will not have changed, because you will bring to it the increased layers of your experience and insights. Your collaboration with the author will be comprised of a different pair of people than it was the previous time. This is why we keep books on our shelves and in our lives.
    This is why movies can never replace books.
    So turn off your surround sound, your sixty-inch flat screen, leave your car in the garage, and drop your 3-D glasses back into the drawer. Pick up a book and turn on your mind. No electricity is required because it’s powered by magic, and you are the sorcerer.
    _____________________________________________________________________________________
    Remember that an internal quote—one which you will use inside your upcoming essay and your research paper—has three parts: the tag (which introduces the quote), the quote itself, using exact words, and the reference, placed in parenthesis.

    • You can only use a writer’s name once, either in the tag or the reference.
    • If you have a page, it goes in parenthesis. If you do not have a page number, you are forced to use the writer’s name, surname only.
    • Ex. (7). or (Smith 7). or (Smith).
    • If you had to use the name in the parenthesis—because there is no page available there, you must think of a different phrase to use in the tag, like One author, Another writer, One critic.
    ________________________________________________________________________
    TO DO NOW:
    Please quote that specified sentence (the bolded one between the arrows) in the four separate styles: a, b, c. d. (see the top of this document for examples). You should try all four ways on one page and then post all four.

    #93644

    Mariadelmar Marin
    Participant

    A-One writer says, “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    B) “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength,” says one writer (Scherber).

    C) “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says one writer, “is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    One writer says, “The very basic limitation of books […] is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    D) One writer says that the biggest limitation of books is that they can’t show you all the details of the story. That’s also its biggest strength (Scherber).

    #93648

    Gana Elhanafy
    Participant

    A)One commentator states, ” The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    B) “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength,” states one commentator (Scherber).

    C) “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” states one commentator, “is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    D)One commentator states that a book’s basic limitation is that it can’t show you all the details of the story it’s telling, this is also its biggest strength  (Scherber).

    #93649

    Yaritza Torres
    Participant

    A)A critic says, “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    B) “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength,” says another critic (Scherber).

    C)”The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says another critic, “is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    D) Another critic says that a book’s limitation is that it doesn’t show you all of the details that the story has. This is also a book’s biggest strength (Scherber).

    #93650

    Juan B
    Participant

    A) ~ A reviewer says, “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    B) ~ “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength,” says a reviewer (Scherber).

    C) ~ ”The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says a reviewer, “is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    D)A reviewer says that a book’s limitation is that it doesn’t show you all of the details that the story has, which is also a book’s biggest strength (Scherber).

    #93651

    Monique
    Participant

    <p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1em; font-size: 14px; font-family: ‘Open Sans’, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;”>A.</p>
    <p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1em; font-size: 14px; font-family: ‘Open Sans’, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;”>John Scherber says “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength” (1).</p>
    <p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1em; font-size: 14px; font-family: ‘Open Sans’, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;”>B.
    “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength” (Scherber)</p>
    <p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1em; font-size: 14px; font-family: ‘Open Sans’, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;”>C.
    ”The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says John Scherber “is also its principal strength” (1).</p>
    <p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; font-size: 14px; font-family: ‘Open Sans’, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;”>D.</p>
    <p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; font-size: 14px; font-family: ‘Open Sans’, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;”>A book’s limitation is that it doesn’t show you all of the details that the story has to offer. This is also a book’s biggest strength.</p>
     

    #93652

    Monique
    Participant

    I apologize for the inconvenience I copied from my google docs from my phone.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B-IZCezPwqYhL07TpouTIX_4J3zHuGr3VuR457p07X4/edit

    #93655

    Sofia Quinde
    Participant

    A) Scherber says, “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength” (1).

    B) “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength,” says  Scherber (1).

    C)” The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says Scherber, “is also its principal strength” (1).

    D)John Sherber says that a book’s limitation is that it doesn’t show you all the details that the story has. This is also a book’s biggest strength (1).

    #93656

    Osman
    Participant

    A) John Scherber says “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength” (1).

    B) “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    C)”The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says John Scherber “is also its principal strength” (1).

    D) A book’s limitation is that it doesn’t show you all of the details that the story has. This is also a book’s biggest strength.

    #93657

    Caitlyn Murphy
    Participant

    A- One writer says, “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also principal strength” (Scherber).

    B- “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says one writer (Scherber).

    C- “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says one writer, “is also its principal strength” (1).

    One writer says, “The very basic limitation of books […], “is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    D- One writer says that the biggest limitation of books is that they can’t show you all the details of the story. That’s also its biggest strength (Sherber).

    #93673

    Kyyoung98
    Participant

    A) One writer says, “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its details, is also principal strength” (Scherber).

    B) “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says one writer (Scherber).

    C) “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says one writer, “is also its principal strength” (Scherber).

    D) One writer says that the biggest limitation of books is that they can’t show you all the details of the story. That’s also its biggest strength (Scherber).

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    #93695

    braulio
    Participant

    A) One writer says, “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show everything in the story in all its details, is also principle strength” (Scherber)

    B)”The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show everything in the story in all its details, is also principle strength” says one writer (Scherber)

    C) “The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show everything in the story in all its details,” says one writer “is also principle strength” (Scherber)

    D) John Scherber says that a books limit is that it cant show you all the details of a story, but that is also is strength.

    #93722

    JaNiya J
    Participant

    A) One writer says, The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail, is also principal strength (Scherber).
    B) The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show everything in the story in all its details, is also principle strength says one writer (Scherber)
    C) The very basic limitation of books, the inability to show you everything in the story in all its detail,” says a reviewer, “is also its principal strength”(Scherber)
    D) One writer says that the biggest limitation of books is that they can’t show you all the details of the story. That’s also its biggest strength (Scherber).

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