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- 11/8 Practicing quoting
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Right now we will be practicing two of the five ways to quote another person. This is important for essay two as well as academic writing in general and your research paper in particular.
I will post a color coded–and therefore much easier to read–version of the below explanation in the Files folder.
It will seem complicated because it is thorough. I suggest you download the pdf color-coded version that is in Docs.
Your responses 1, 2, 3, and 4 need to be posted here in the Discussion folder.
Items 1 and 2 are just a few words each, a list.
Items 3 and 4 are variations of the same single sentence as directed.Since this is a new and important skill, you will be given time at the end of the week to use it in essay 3. For those who already sent in essay 2, you have the opportunity to fix your quotes.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Direct Quoting which means using exact words.
You may use one of these styles, (a) or (b)
a) tag (introducer) before quote:Joe Smith says, “Xxxxxxxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx” ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period. ex. (18).
orb) tag follows quote:
“ Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx” xxxxxxx,” says Joe Smith ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period.
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Remember, the verbs you choose should be in the present tense. We could just use the past tense “said,” but present tense “says” is more dynamic.
1) Please make a list of some verbs that you can use instead of “says” when you introduce a quote.
Your short list:2) Please make a list of nouns you can use for a research paper. The people you can quote, other than the actual name of the author. The nouns have to be relevant to writers and critics for your purposes: ex. One writer, Another author, One critic
Your short list:
3) Create a quote in style (a) ONLY out of the highlighted sentence below.
The following paragraph is an excerpt of the novel The Catcher in the Rye
The Catcher in the Rye (main character is Holden Caulfield)by J.D. Salinger
Where I want to start telling is the day I left Pencey Prep. Pencey Prep is this school that’s in Agerstown, Pennsylvania. You probably heard of it. You’ve probably seen the ads, anyway. They advertise in about a thousand magazines, always showing some hotshot guy on a horse jumping over a fence. Like as if all you ever did at Pencey was play polo all the time. I never even once saw a horse anywhere near the place. And underneath the guy on the horse’s picture, it always says: “Since 1888 we have been molding boys into splendid, clear-thinking young men.” Strictly for the birds. They don’t do any damn more molding at Pencey than they do at any other school. And I didn’t know anybody there that was splendid and clear-thinking and all. Maybe two guys. If that many. And they probably came to Pencey that way.
(above is from page 2) Please note this situation is unusual because you are quoting the fictional character, a 16-year-old boy, Holden Caulfield. However, the author—the one whose name should be in parenthesis after the quote, is a man named J.D. Salinger.
NOTE: When you talk about a fictional person, feel free to discuss him by his first name, his last name, or his full name. However, when you discuss a real person (an artist, writer, director, painter, musician, athlete, etc.) you must only use his last name or his full name. Unless you know him personally, it is inappropriate to say, for example, William if you mean William Shakespeare, while you can say Harry if you mean Harry Potter.
Getting back to today’s work, create a quote out of the highlighted sentence (only) above. Remember the person in the tag is the boy; the person in the reference is the author. Your quote needs three components:
a) tag (introducer) before quote, the quote, and the reference:Joe Smith says, “Xxxxxxxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx” ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period. ex. (18).
Try this now.
3)4) Now try the exact same quote using the tag AFTER the quote, style (b) above.
tag follows quote:“ Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx” xxxxxxx,” says Joe Smith ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period.
Note that the reference always goes last and the needed period DOES not occur until the very end, not at the end of the quote.I will help you with the reference, which is the same for both 3 and 4:
(Salinger 2). Please notice that if you have a page number it goes inside the reference. There is no comma. The final period is at the end.Try item 4 now.
4)1 ) It says, Speaks on, they say
Your first two wouldn’t work for our needs.
2) An author, another writer . one commentator
These are good.3) Pency prep says: “Since 1888 we have been molding boys into splendid, clear-thinking young men.” As we see in the excerpt from The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger.
No. See other students to see if any have the right way.
4) “Since 1888 we have been molding boys into splendid, clear-thinking young men.” Pency preps ads say. ( As we see in the excerpt from The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger). Your reference only should have this: (Salinger 2). You quoted the wrong sentence and your punctuation and tag wording is incorrect. Please look at the document explaining what the quote should look like in the Files folder as explained at the top of the current assignment.
1. It mentions, it adds on to, they say that.
None work. “It” seems inhuman. We don’t use “that” if there will be quote marks.
2. In addition, the author states, the author mentions.
The second two here work.3. Barack Obama says, “Enthusiasm makes up for a host of definiens.” As we see this is from the expert, Reader’s
digestion.WRONG WORD!No! Where is your BRIEF reference? Too many words. Please read the explanation I provided.
4. “Enthusiasm makes up for a host of definiens.” Barak Obama says, (As we see in the article Readers Digestion.
Period is wrong. Reference is wong.1.) Stated, explained, mentioned.
You need the PRESENT tense.
2.) The author, the author added, the author continued.
It should be like this: One author says, You need a PRESENT tense verb in eash.3.)
J.D Salinger says, “They advertise in about a thousand magazines, always showing some hotshot guy on a horse jumping over a fence” (2 J.D. Salinger.)
No. you can’t use the name twice, Holden is the speaker and the page goes after the author’s name
4.) “They advertise in about a thousand magazines, always showing some hotshot guy on a horse jumping over a fen
ce” saysJ.D.SalingerHolden(2 J.D. Salinger.)comma goes before the end quote in this style
1) states, demonstrates, explains, formulates, mentions, asserts,
claimed, claimssubjectsnot the kind of verb for quoting
the first four are good
2) one writer believes, author claims, writer demonstrates, author reveals. The latter two would need words like “one” or “another.”
3) Holden Caulfield reveals how “Pencey Prep don’t do any molding compared to other schools”( J.D 2).No. You quoted the wrong sentence. Omit “how,” add a comma after “reveals,” use Salinger, not J.D.
4) “nobody there at Pencey Prep was splendid and clear thinking at all” explains Holden Caulfield (Salinger 2). This half is correct
Each version was to be the sentence that was pointed out, the one starting “They advertise…1. States, mentions, author claims, explains.
good
2. In addition, the author states. Yes, but you need more examples
3. John F. Kennedy says “Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names”(Kennedy).
missing comma after the tag; the name should not appear in two places.
4. “Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names” says John F. Kennedy.
comma before quote is missing; reference is missing.
1) Stated, Claims, explains, shows.
Yes
2) The author states, According to,
Critics saysgrammar error your singular verb needs a singular subject3) J.D. Salinger stated, “They advertise in about a thousand magazines, always showing some hotshot guy on a horse jumping over a fence.”
No. Please look for correct ones among your classmates’ postings. In this case the author’s name is wrongly in the tag and you omitted the parenthetical part.4) “They advertise in about a thousand magazines, always showing some hotshot guy on a horse jumping over a fence.” J.D. Salinger had once said. all the bolded parts are wrong Please look again at the example.
1) States, mentions, demonstrates and claims
good
2) the author states, one writer believes, the author claims
very good!3) J.D Salinger says, “They advertise in about a thousand magazines, always showing some hotshot guy on a horse jumping over a fence”
Where is Holden? Where is your end reference?
4) “They advertise in about a thousand magazines, always showing some hotshot guy on a horse jumping over a fence INCOMPLETE
1) Introductionary Quotes
– Remarks
– Asserts
– Alleges
– Argues
– Deprecates
– Illustratesvery good!
~ the author illustrates
the ideaWe want the quote to immediately follow the verb
~ Senator Such’N’Such deprecates
~ the public speaker alleges
~ the journalist speculatesI am not sure what your following, albeit interesting, quotes are in response to because you were supposed to quote a sentence I had provided and your quotes are noy using the tag/quote/reference structure I showed the class!
Roman Emperor
Marcus Aurelius // The Meditations alleges in the text
” Being each day by telling yourself: Today I shall be meeting with interference, ingratitude, insolence, disloyalty, ill will, and selfishness
– all of them due to the offender’s ignorance of what is good or evil. ” ????????The Sandman (Netflix Series) Episode 6 – The Sound of Her Wings
Death expresses her angry to Morpheus
” You are utterly the stupidest most self-centered appallingest excuse for an anthropomorphic personification on this or any other plane. Feeling all sorry for yourself because your little game is over and you haven’t got the balls to go and find a new one. ”Fredrick Douglas 02/ 1818 – 02/ 20 / 1895
Narrative of the life of Fredrick Douglass // he writes
” One you learn to read, you will forever be free. ”Please reread the assignment.
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