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- 11/22/22 Practicing the quoting basics (again)
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November 22, 2022 at 8:29 pm #82377
Prof. MasielloParticipantRight now we will be practicing again two of the five ways to quote another person. This is important for essay two as well as academic writing in general and your research paper in particular.
I will post a color coded–and therefore much easier to read–version of the below explanation in the Files folder.
It will seem complicated because it is thorough. I suggest you download the pdf color-coded version that is in Docs.
Items 3 and 4 are variations of the same single sentence as directed and both need to be posted here in the Discussion folder.
Many students did not do this assignment. Quoting wrongly will lessen the grades of any assignment requiring quotes. Most of those who did submit their work had mistakes, so we will practice again and you may try methods 3, 4, and 5 on your research paper if you are adventurous. I will try to give you some practice with those more complicated styles after you “master” the basics.
For those who already sent in essay 2, you have the opportunity to fix your quotes.
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Direct Quoting which means using exact words.
You may use one of these styles, (a) or (b)
a) tag (introducer) before quote:
Joe Smith says, “Xxxxxxxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx” ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period. ex. (18).
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b) tag follows quote:
“ Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx” xxxxxxx,” says Joe Smith ( ). Page number–or last name–goes in parenthesis before the period.
You use the author you have, not “Joe Smith,” of course!
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Remember, the verbs you choose should be in the present tense. We could just use the past tense “said,” but present tense “says” is more dynamic.
1) Here’s a list of some verbs that you can use instead of “says” when you introduce a quote.
Your short list: says, writes, states, explains
REMEMBER: do not add “that,” just put a comma after the verb and write the quote.
2) Here’s a list of nouns you can use for our research paper. The people you can quote, other than the actual name of the author. The nouns have to be relevant to writers and critics for your purposes: ex. One writer, Another author, One critic
Your short list: A reviewer, One writer, Another author, One critic, One observerAssignment due tomorrow: Look at the article posted in Files called “Why Books Will Never Replace Books.” You do not have to read it but you might enjoy it. I have highlighted one section in two colors.
Please quote just the yellow highlighted sentence. Use methods a and b for two separate quotes of the same sentence.
You have an author’s name but no page. The rest is up to you.
PLEASE DO NOT GUESS ABOUT HOW TO DO THESE. FOLLOW THE EXAMPLES ABOVE EXACTLY.
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November 24, 2022 at 8:53 pm #82400
Manahill ArshadParticipant“They advertise in about a thousand magazines, always showing some hotshot guy on a horse jumping over a fence”(Page 2 Salinger).
1. States, Said, Explained. NO. All of them were supposed to be in the present tense (ending in “s”)
2. Editor said, Author states, Observer said. No, these are ungrammatical because each one need a word like “an” or “one” AND all of them were supposed to be in the present tense (ending in “s”)
One author says,
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November 28, 2022 at 10:07 am #82421
VivianaParticipant“The inability of a book to be visual, only to stimulate you visually, is a huge plus” (Scherber 4).
This one above is missing its tag.
According to Scherber “the inability of a book to be visual, only to stimulate you visually, is a huge plus”(par. 4).
Though you could word a quote’s tag this way, you were, instead, supposed to put the tag part (one writer says or says one writer) after the quote as per the examples.
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November 30, 2022 at 9:25 pm #82451
Tahreem ImranParticipantA. Joseph Heller says “”Anything worth dying for is certainly worth living for” (Catch 22). Not exactly: Heller is the author and his name should go in the end reference inside parenthesis. What COULD also go inside the parentheses is the page.
The name of the character that Heller used to say the words you quoted should go in the tag. And you need a comma after the tag.
1. States, describes, explains, Said. the last one should be SAYS
2. Author describes, author states, observer states. Ungrammatical : all the nouns you chose need words like An, The, One before them!
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December 4, 2022 at 12:19 am #82487
Shane OsbourneParticipantHolden Caulfield says, “They advertise in about a thousand magazines, always showing some hotshot guy on a horse jumping over a fence” (J.D. Salinger, Page 2)
1. says, states, quotes, explains, describes
2. an article quotes, one writer says, the author claims.
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