INTRO, Day 2: Wed. Feb. 2nd

READ “Rhetoric and Genre Excerpt” by Elizabeth Wardle and Douglas P. Downs and write a response to the questions below. Make sure to thoughtfully respond to the questions. Do not just write a few words in response, write a meaningful answer that is based in the text. Use evidence and examples from the text to support your thinking. 

For example:

I liked this piece because I like how Wardle and Downs describe writing as a process. I had never thought of it that way before. They write, “Writing is a process. It takes time and practice. Writing that that are new to you, writing longer texts, and writing with new kinds of technology all take practice. And no matter how much you practice, what you write will never be perfect” (Wardle 16).  This is a helpful reminder to me as a writer. 

RESPOND  to at least one of your classmates! Read through the comments that your classmates post! Choose one to respond to! Write a thoughtful response. Some ideas of how to start (you don’t have to use these! just ideas!):

  • Something you wrote that I really liked was….
  • I liked [. __ ]  because
  • I wanted to know more about [ __ ] because …
  • What you wrote made me think about …..

READING QUESTIONS:

  1. What did you think of the piece? Be honest! Really! My feelings won’t be hurt! Was it hard to read? Interesting? Was there something that really stood out to you?
  2. Why do you think the author wrote this piece? Who is their intended audience? SUPPORT your answer with specific evidence from the text!
  3. What do you think the authors mean when they say: “Writing helps people get things done, which makes writing powerful. But how and why particular writing does (or does not) work depends on who the people are, where they come from, what their goals are, what technologies they have available to them and the kids of texts (genres) they are writing” (Wardle 11). Do you agree or disagree with the statement. Explain!
  4. Think about the different “rules” for writing that the authors describe. Describe two different situations when you applied different writing “rules.”
  5. How do the authors describe the concepts of “rhetorical” and “rhetorical” situations?
  6. What do the authors mean when they say that genres are like maps? What questions do the authors suggest you should ask when you find yourself reading a new genre?

22 Comments

  1. Diana

    1)I felt it hard to connect to the piece and often times felt myself having to go back and read things again because I had not been paying attention to what I was reading. One thing that stood out to me was the example of texting your friends to hang out. I like how the author was able to bring in an example that most people can relate to. I also like when the author mentioned that there is always time in which different forms of writing can be used whether that’s handwriting or texting. 2)I think this article was used in order to teach students about the different types of writing and show writers that there isn’t only one way to write. The intended audience can be students that are learning the different ways to use writing. I say this because in the text the author addresses students multiple times and uses examples of college students. 3)I agree with the statement the author made. I think that writing different genres help the author connect with a different audience. For example, writing a poem might help the author connect with people in high school but not with people in elementary school because they aren’t interested in poems. I also agree that who the author is matters because if the author is writing about a topic that they don’t identify with or something they don’t know anything about it makes it so that the writing doesn’t seem authentic. Technology also plays a big role in writing because if you have access to the technology you can reach a bigger audience as opposed to someone who has to hand write something to get their point across. 4)One example the author gave when it came to writing rules was when applying for a job. When applying for a job you would have to keep in mind to check your grammar and not to write in incomplete sentences. Another time the author mentions is texting your friends. The author mentions this because when texting your friends you shouldn’t worry about your grammar and if you are writing in full sentences. The author mentions that texting should only be used in a situation in which it is needed. 5)Rhetorical is related to how people communicate, interact and persuade each other. A rhetorical situation is any situation in which people are communicating. 6)I think what the author means when they say that genres are like maps because when looking at a map you need to be able to understand what you are looking at. Another thing that is mentioned is that a map can change and people need to be able to adjust themselves to the change. The author mentions technology and how having a phone might make it easier to understand the map and use it. This goes back to who the intended audience is in terms of writing. Publishing an article in a newspaper might reach a certain audience but not everyone as it would if it was posted online.

    • Mushfiq Alam

      Hey Diana, I gotta say that I do agree with your initial statement about not being able to relate to the text as I also got distracted by it as a result. In addition, I really enjoyed your answer to number 6. When you said ” Another thing that is mentioned is that a map can change and people need to be able to adjust themselves to the change”, I had taken a moment afterwards to think about it as although the answer may be right in front of your face you might have to just look at it from a different angle to find it.

  2. Mushfiq Alam

    1)Honestly I found the piece compelling in the regard that it explores the different aspects that make up writing. The factors, the intended audience, and the genre all of which contribute to the contingency of the paper/text. Exploring these different aspects reveals that there’s much more to writing than just placing one’s thoughts onto paper. However with all that being said, the piece felt harder to read then it should have. Often while reading I had lost focus due to the pacing of the text. It had felt like the text had been trying to incorporate too much information and condense it into one paragraph. One such instance of this would be on page 17 towards the second paragraph as it states “rhetoric is the set of principles they’re using (often unconsciously) to do it – to shape their communication and make decisions about it”. Although this is just a brief rundown on what rhetoric is, I’d rather that the author would have explained this a bit more thoroughly rather than quickly just moving onto the next term and repeating this again.

    2)I believe that the author’s main purpose when writing this piece was to help students become better writers and readers. My reasoning being that the author had gone over a general overview of the aspects of writing and reading what the writer should be looking for when it comes to either reading or writing a piece. To support this on page 14 looking at the last paragraph it states “This “contingency” of writing – the fact that what makes writing good depends on circumstances – can be a hard threshold concept to learn because you’ve been in school for so long, being taught rules that were treated as universal even though they were actually only contingent – specific to that time and place”. This piece of text indicates that the intended reader is meant to be a student as the phrase “you’ve been in school for so long” suggests that the reader must have some prior experience with academics. This also supports the idea that the author had written the text to help the reader become better as a reader and writer as the use of vocabulary of the word contingency helps the reader develop a basic understanding of the word so that they could possibly use themselves.

    3)Referring to the text, I believe that the author means not all people have the same capability or natural ability to write. Everyone is different in their own regards and have differences that distinguish them from the next. As a result not everyone is going to excel at writing or necessarily be bad at it either, backgrounds and writing styles can greatly impact the quality of the writing. With all that being said I do agree with this statement. My reasoning behind this is that someone who may have been typing all their papers their whole entire life might struggle with handwriting assignments. Does this mean that they’re a bad writer as a result? Not at all, all it means is that some people are better than others when it comes to certain aspects of writing as to where the person who struggles in one aspect might be better in another.

    4)The author mentions quite a few rules when it comes to writing such as recognizing genre convention or being able to identify word choice either to help convey/simplify a message. I have applied both in similar manners in different situations. One instance being when applying for internships as I am able to recognize that I have to write a resume as that way I am able to list all my skills and experiences in a presentable manner. Not to mention that I have to simplify and condense a lot of the descriptions so that way the employer will be able to just glance at the text and understand what I had written quickly. Another circumstance would be when I want to talk to a friend. I’d just shoot them a text whenever I wanted to talk as I know that way they’d respond within reasonable time. In addition, my word choice would be very casual in order to make the typing process quicker. For example, if I wanted to ask my friend what they are doing right now I’d text them wyd rn as that way they know what I’m asking without me having the hassle of manually typing the phrase all out.

    5)The authors convey the concept of rhetorical as something that gradually becomes clearer as time progresses as where rhetorical situations refer to when the instance itself is occurring.

    6)When that author says that genres are similar to maps I believe that they are saying that in order to look at a genre you have to understand what the genre is. This being that to look at a map and know what you’re looking at you have to understand what the map is and what location it’s depicting. When approaching an unfamiliar genre the author suggests that you ask yourself when the genre would be used, why it would be used, how it is presented, how it is organized, and what is the format of it. The author most likely makes us ask ourselves these questions in order to recognize what the overall purpose of the genre is. Understanding that can help the reader engage with the piece better and gain an understanding of what the piece would like the reader to take away.

    • Tehmina Imanat

      Hi Mushfiq, I really enjoyed reading your response. It was very detailed and well done.
      I agree with you when you stated how you felt about the reading, it did contain a lot of information which did make it harder to focus. I really liked how you answered number 3, people are not just born with writing skills, it takes practice and knowledge to write a good writing piece. Your response made me think a lot about how the author made his point and the advice they had given in this reading.

  3. Tehmina Imanat

    1. I found this piece to be very interesting and full of relevant details. This piece was very lengthy therefore, it was harder to stay focused which then I had to read some paragraphs a few times. Something that stood out to me was how the author included real-life situations and examples to present their arguments/claims.
    2. I think the author wrote this piece to show students that what they are being taught in school about writing definitely sticks with us and is used for the rest of their lives, but there isn’t just one way to write or a set of rules we have to follow in order to be a “good writer.” The author’s main purpose was to prove that writing takes practice, as they stated “Writing is a process. It takes time & practice. Writing things that are new to you, writing longer texts, and writing with new kinds of technology all take practice. No matter how much you practice, what you will write will never be perfect.” I believe the intended audience is students and even writers that might doubt their writing and are stuck in how to find different ways to write.
    3. I 100% agree with this statement. Writing is indeed very powerful because writing revolves around people and our day-to-day lives, we express our feelings, thoughts, emotions, and knowledge onto our writings. What we write is entirely depended on us and how we deliver the message across.
    4. The author discusses many ‘rules’ for writing, one is communicating with someone over text and knowing how to text them according to what kind of relationship you may have with them. Another would be when it comes to applying/ emailing someone in a professional way, you would have to change your tone, genre, and way of writing in that situation.
    5. The authors describe the concepts of “rhetorical” by discussing how people communicate with each other through writings. The authors describe the concepts of “rhetorical” situations to when it is taking place.
    6. When the authors stated “genres are like maps”, I think they meant to understand a map you have to figure out how to get there and that there are many points around your final destination. this all connects to finding a genre in a writing piece because it is key to figure out the author’s purpose, claim, tone, and you have to find details to find the genre of the writing piece. The authors suggest we ask ourselves the purpose of the eiritn and what the genre is.

    • Kaylee Castaneda

      I really liked what you said about the author’s purpose. You stated how “what students are taught in school will stick with them but that there is no correct way of writing essentially we just need to practice to get better” I agree because practicing writing will improve your vocabulary. along with what we are taught in school, there are skills that will stick to us since many things we learn we connect to later on.

  4. Rickey Bryant

    1.For this piece I would say it was interesting because I think of me when times I don’t understand these thing I would go back read and underline key facts that stands out to me.Something that stood out to me was that how the author how sayings that are acutely happening to this day as we people do struggle and power push through it like how people struggle reading talking different languages writing it takes time for practice,
    2.For this the author is wrote this is because that it telling everyone out there that having problems reading and writing because it takes time for us people to learn how to read and write.As a example when I was growing up when I was little I didn’t know to read or write it know it takes for us human to learn specific word and to know what they mean.The audience that they are are talking about are every single people that are struggling now it’s giving them confident and that are learning different kind of ways to write so it can help them have a better understanding on what to say or write.
    3.Yes I agree what the author what mean is because yes writing does helps people practice always makes perfect and the type of genre that can also help the audience that are listening.For this many of us struggle when it comes to writing essay or anything sometimes we get words that we do or don’t understand when we write down everyone is not perfect when it comes to writing it’s to see how what they know and something that they can work on moving forward.
    4. The author did mention rules like i see how to text with people to see where the friendship goes that will help them better understanding their talking or texting wise.The other ones is also talked about if they wanted to apply for jobs if they need they use formal languages for a better understanding.The author also mentions that texting Friends,Teachers,Families to text the make sure to always fix it up it’s so that they understand what you trying to say to that they can read the proper way and also make sure to fix any mistakes that you are having.The last is to always correct your writing when you know if it’s not good always go back to fix it the grammar to make sure that they are all in great work forms.
    5.The Rhetorical is more like a communication that talk and Elaine things.Rhetorical are like any type of problems or any concerns that they are having.
    6.The author means that figure out the maps it’s so that you can understand the basic to it to understand if u ever get lost or anything the maps will help u where and where to look at you directly.The author suggest that should ask ourself the genre of this and what can we use this loving forward to help us come up with nether genre in the future.

    • Rickey Bryant

      Oops sorry for 5 mistakes of words lol for 5 I can rewrite it here
      5.The rhetorical is more like a communication that helps with writings. rhetorical are any types of problems or any concerns that us people are having.

  5. Kaylee Castaneda

    1. I enjoyed reading this text because it was pretty self-explanatory and it was informative as well. It was pretty easy to read as well. It also was relatable and I feel like many people like I do can relate to some of the things being said. A few things stood out to me as well. Something mentioned is that we change the way we talk and write to people depending on who is the audience.
    2.I think that the author wrote this piece so that we college students and other people can see that rhetoric is everywhere around us. It’s in-school in readings and we use it in our daily life as well. I feel like it is mostly directed to students in general. Later on, the reading, it talked about how writing takes lots of practice. The more the better it will get.
    3.I agree with this statement. Overall I think that writing is powerful and it basically is everywhere around us as well. We need to write and text or use other techniques so that we can learn and communicate with others as well. Writing could correlate with how people may interpret it as well. The writer usually has a specific audience that they want the writing piece to be directed to In specific. The audience might see and have a different point of view. Writing also has to do with what goals the writer might have in writing the piece. What do they want to accomplish.
    4.The rules can be applied when someone is proofreading your writing piece. This can be so that it can have a better flow to it. Another way a rule can be applied is when we have to communicate with each other which is an everyday thing that most people do nowadays.
    5.The concept is shown that we communicate with one another like this. It can be for a job interview or to meet up with friends. Its an everyday necessity.
    6.I think that the author is saying when the genres are like maps is that they can lead to many outlets. Meaning that they all have different purposes. In the text, it also says that maps change all the time because technology always advances. This can relate to the way we write since we can always edit it or change the style that we write in.

  6. Christopher Lopez

    I thought the piece was very well written and provided a lot of details to support what was written. It wasn’t hard to read but was a little long. What really stood out to me was when they kept using real life situations as examples to support what was said.

    I think the author wrote this to help students become better writers. The intended audience are students or people who want to become better writers. When they said “All writers have more to learn”. That being said implies that students will become better writers the more they learn.

    I agree with the author’s statement because the way that you should write is dependent on the situation you’re in. The different types of writings help reach different audiences.

    One of the rules for writing is that when you text with someone to see if you can better understand them. Another way is that when people apply for a job they use a more formal language.

    The author conveys the concept of rhetorical as how people communicate through writing. A rhetorical situation is when people are communicating.

    When the author said “genres are like maps’ ‘ I think he means that there are different locations like there are different reasons to communicate with each other. The question from the author is what tone is the genre and also what language is the genre.

    • Alisa

      I also think that the piece was very well written , it was not hard to read and easy to understand even though the writing was a little long since the author included a lot of examples that made more sense to writing.

  7. Alisa

    1) This piece is about writing overall and how each writing has its own rules and no writing is perfect. I enjoyed reading it and I do agree with one of the main concepts of the piece that ” no writing is perfect “.
    2) I think the author wrote this piece for new writers who either started a writing course or on some writing journey, because the author started suing examples and implemented such sayings in his piece ” that each writing has its own rules” and ” a good writer was not born but made ” in the beginning of the paragraph so it would be encouraging for people not to be scared to start writing and even expressing themselves through writing.
    3) I do agree with this quote because writing does help people get things done such as expressing yourself, studying, writing down notes, writing a text message to your friend or a family member, but it also all depends on a situation .
    4) The two different writing rules that I applied while writing when I was learning how to write and I learned to always start a sentence with a capital letter. And also when I would want to separate words but they’re somehow connected with each other to always put a comma between them or between adjectives.
    5) The authors describe the concepts of rhetorical situations that it’s a communicating skill but not done through communication by talking but rather mentally and this of concept can get more understanding within time.
    6) When the authors say genres are like maps they mean that knowing the genre will get you to the right meaning of the writing . Since every writing has a genre and knowing the genre will make it easier understanding the whole concept of the writing.

    • Steven Galushka

      Hello Alisa

      Great entry, I also enjoyed the article I did find it a bit lengthy but I am just being picky. I really liked your third response, I agree and can relate to that statement how ,”writing does help people get things done such as expressing yourself, studying, writing down notes, writing a text message to your friend or a family member, but it also all depends on a situation .” I enjoyed reading your point of view of the article.

  8. Henry03

    1) I honestly loved the text, It forced me to connect the dots and think in multiple forms of perspectives. The text wasn’t hard to read but there was a lot of things that did catch my eye such as the author explaining that different situations require different forms of writing, this gave me an immediate flashback to my previous English class where we watched a video on the term of being “articulate”.
    2) I believe that the target audience is students who are in the transition from high school to college, my reason being that the text refers to the school method of writing and how it isn’t always necessary for writing in the outside world. In addition, the author also mentions that no writing is perfect rather is an evergrowing thing that changes, grows, and evolves with time through practice.
    3) The author mentions that writing is a very helpful tool that helps people communicate with others however, it can be determined and analyzed in an unintentional form of context. An example was given where the author gave a situation between a grandparent and a grandchild, where the grandparent doesn’t know how to communicate with the grandchild through text due to the grandparent’s lack of understatement in modern-day Technology. The Author also gave another example where he described that doctors used specialized words that described their intended meaning with accuracy and precision.
    4) The Author made a consistent reference to the “school” method in being Grammarly correct, however later mentions that there is another situation where it is required to approach it differently, for example, a poem, haiku, friends, and environments. However, the author also makes an argument that the school method of writing is necessary for a professional situation, giving you the illusion of credibility, responsibility, and knowledge in the topic or field.
    5) The author does a great job of describing and explaining the meaning and differences between Rhetorical and Rhetorical Situations. Rhetorical meaning communication and Rhetorical Situation meaning, communication between a group of people at random times.
    6)The Author gives a great illustration when they explain the connection between maps and genres. For example, the author explains that in a map there is a set path that you can follow to get to your end goal, and how a genre is very similar to a map. Each genre has a different way of writing and explaining; the Author also mentions that a map can change and how it is your job to figure out where in the map you are. Identifying the position you are on the map is very crucial since it dictates what you have to do and how you can get to your final destination.

    • Nastassia Molicheva

      Hi Henry!
      I loved that you said the text “forced you to connect the dots” – I felt very similar in the sense that everything that the authors mentiond was already subconsciously in my mind, but the writing helped to put it on a conscious level. I guess that was yet another achievement of writing in this scenario/genre?
      I also appreciated the mention of “the illusion of credibility” while using professional writing. It’s a minimum requirement today to be able to write a good resume to seem responsible and knowledgeable. But I feel like in this specific case, only interviews and first-hand experience can show if that illusion is a reality.

  9. Nastassia Molicheva

    1. The piece was very educational – it helped me to better understand the essence of writing. The text was somewhat challenging to comprehend, partly due to the content repetition. However, after skimming it down to a few main ideas and examples, I found it quite enlightening.
    I never before was formally introduced to the concept of writing contingency, even though I had a general understanding of the meaning behind it.

    2. I believe the authors intended to write this piece for college students, who are interested in bettering their writing. We can spot that through the text itself being heavily focused on the themes of good writing, writing as a process, and genres. The other clue lies at the very beginning of the text, where the authors say: “In the rest of our lives outside of school”…which points out that attending school is a significant part of their daily life. We can also assume that the piece was written specifically for college students, as the authors further mention sororities.

    3. We as people come together and attempt writing to achieve some goals. Whether its communicationg with one’s friends, emails at work, or messages to one’s partner, writing is a necessary part of our daily life. We would and should “codeswitch” in all said situations: who would want to get a work email full of emojis and intentional typos? Not many.
    I completely agree with the above statement. It is also very important to know the audience, goal and genre of one’s writing. That way, one can conduct research to prepare and know what kind of text is expected, and will gain a positive reaction and understanding of the audience.

    4. I truly enoyed reading about learning in witing, as well as non-perfectible writing, which are not necessarily stated as formal rules, but are important to mention as well.
    The fact that one cannot be perfect in writing, because there’s no such thing as “perfect writing” is empowering in itself. It helps to let go of (at least some) expectations one can put on themselves. At the same time, while one can be far from achieving greatness in science fiction, they can be the most successful academic writer. The possibilities are endless and there’s always something to learn. Continuous learning seems to be IT for growing one’s writing. I also feel that the aforementioned statement is true not only in a grammatical or colloquial sense. When we gain more experience and enrich our outlook on life, we become better writers as well.

    5. The authors describe the concept of “rhetorical” as communicational: anything that includes persuasion, interaction and shaping people’s communication. “Rhetorical” situations, therefore, can be any situations where communication is taking place.

    6. Genres are like maps in the sense that they are helpful in new situations. Genres can lead you to the certain rules and typical expected responses to certain environments and situations. Alas, like maps, they tend to change with time, and there are various maps for different situations. It is also important to mention, that to use maps (or genres) successfully, one needs to know how to decrypt its symbols(characteristics), know how to orient, and think for oneself. Without that knowledge, the map wouldn’t help as much.
    There are four types of questions one should ask when they find themselves reading a new genre: situational element, content, stylistic characteristic, and organizing principle questions. Each type of question is aimed to create a better grasp of a new genre.

    • Henry03

      Hey, Nastassia :).
      I can totally agree with you when you said that the whole piece was “enlightening”, and I honestly loved how you explained question number three; that was the one question I found very hard to explain but you worded it perfectly, with the keyword being “code-switching”. Keep up the great work 🙂

  10. Steven Galushka

    1.) This read was something I found enjoyable even though it is a bit lengthy, it was entertaining to read because of how the text was trying to relate to us as the reader using real life situations, giving this text a human element to it.
    2.) I think the author wrote this piece for students who have a hard time writing or are struggling to write meaningful pieces and require that little extra push to get them going.
    Just like how the author says, “no good write is born but made” supports my idea of the authors message to his audience.
    3.) I agree with the author on his quote, everyone can write but because no two people are the same they have their own specific strong suit. This is also why there is a great variety of writers is because of their situation and their access to writing that make them great.
    4.) What the author means by rules is that there are instances where spelling and punctuation is the most important thing like writing an email to a boss or co worker, but there are rules that are there to get your point and voice across and make the writing personal, like a text to a close friend.
    5.) Rhetorical means that the an idea or concept is becoming more understandable over time than it was initially, a rhetorical situation is just like rhetorical but the change of time between of understanding and the unknown is more obvious.
    6.) What the authors mean when they they say genres are like maps is that just like a map to get to your destination, it requires you to see other land marks or genres along they way to your destination to get the fuller understanding of what you truly find is entertaining to you.

  11. Abdul Ikhlaq

    As I was reading this lengthy reading I enjoyed it at the beginning. The way the author connected to her audience, which would mainly be teenagers and young adults, was intriguing. The way Elizabeth Wardel spoke about how we would get bored and shoot a text to a group chat or our friends was relatable, and the way we would consult the time to link up to do whatever. She started going in depth on how we would message people we know such as family and friends with slang, abbreviations and grammar incorrect sentences. When we would message for something we need or dreamed of such as a job, we would type and reply to messages in full detail and would double check our grammar and punctuations.

    I think Elizabeth Wardel wrote this piece for young adults and students. To wake us up on something that we would do daily and not think twice about. To show us students that good and appreciated writing isn’t what we look up to in a classroom but the way another reader would fully understand what we are writing. On page 3 it states “ Consider what makes writing work when you are texting your friends. Do they think your texts are good if you use full sentences, correct grammar and type words correctly? Probably not and quite the opposite. If you did those things, texting would take a long time and your friends might make fun of you”. This quote states how that good writing is writing that is appreciated and is understood clearly to the audience.

    Elizabeth Wardel states “ Writing helps people get things done, which makes writing powerful. But how and why particular writing does (or does not) work depends on who the people are, where they come from, what their goals are, what technologies they have available to them and the kinds of texts (genres) they are writing”. I agree with this statement because I use writing to get my things done. For example last night. I took my notepad and a pencil to write down what I have to do and get done this morning and throughout the day. My family members also use writing. When going to do grocery shopping they would make a list in whatever language and whatever hand writing.

    Elizabeth Wardel mentioned a couple different times you would use writing the way we would write out to whomever. One example is for job applications and interviews. Over the summer I applied for a small job that was taking place in my highschool. Instead of virtually meeting or in person I was asked questions through texts. When responding to these texts without thinking twice I found myself typing in full sentences and double checking my grammar before sending the message to sound professional as I would verbally. Another example and rule the author brought up was with friends. WhenI was interviewed through texting I was formal and looking over what I would be sending. With people I know and with family I wouldn’t. That’s when all the slang and abbreviations would be used.

    On page 7 Elizabeth Wardel describes “Rhetorical” to be thought of as communication and the way we would interact with one and other and persuade each other’s minds. “Rhetorical Situations” she states “In any moment in which people are communicating.”

    When Elizabeth Wardel states that genres should be seen like maps, I believe she is trying to say that when figuring out the genre we have to look at certain aspects in how the writer is writing such as tone. On a map you are looking for a way or route to get to a certain destination. So you observe the map and thoroughly look through it. Same for when discovering the genre of a writing piece. To help us discover the genre, the author states that we should observe how you think the genre would be used and when it would be used.

    Abdul Ikhlaq

  12. Camila Torres

    -I found this piece very useful and interesting in a way where I obtain information. Normally I would get distracted whenever I would read articles related to this one because it was pretty long but it was informative for me. What I liked was how the author gave in real life examples that most people can relate to. Wardel gave us examples on the differences on how we write to teachers and to friends.
    -I think the author wrote this piece to help students who have a hard time writing to improve and understand writing more in depth. This article may be useful to help them concentrate and better themselves in creating any writing paper. The author mainly states the school method of writing which is why I believe students are the intended audience.
    -I agree with the author because writing can help people get things done in many ways . For example people can use it while studying, taking down notes, and expressing yourself in a journal.
    -One situation where different writing “rules” were applied are a resume because it contains specific details to be accepted at a job. Another situation would be texting friends and family, with them it wouldn’t be as necessary to review my grammar and punctuation .
    -The author describes the concepts of “rhetorical” as communicational. Anything with communication and interaction is where the concept is being described.
    -The author states that genres are like maps. I believe she means is for us to understand each genre when approaching a writing piece. Like a map, we use it to get to a destination. In this case we would use genre as a map to get to a better understanding.

  13. josue

    1) When beginning to read the piece, I was falling asleep and really wasn’t interested. However as I continued to read it, I found myself more intrigued into the story. The piece was really informative in how these different ways of writings can shape people or how they can sort of dictate a real life problem. 2) I think the author wrote this piece in order for us the readers to see that there are a lot more ways of writing. We think that we’re supposed to write in a certain type of way when in reality, there are a bunch of different ways in which we could use our words. The author is trying to encourage readers to be more creative and open minded with their writing. 3) I agree with what the author says here because not everyone writes in the same manner. Some people tend to be lazy and unorganized with their writing, while other people tend to be more organized and professional. In other words, people have different writing styles and these styles can depict who and how a person is. 4) The two ways of writing that really apply to me are how to text someone and how to be professional when emailing someone. I didn’t really know that there were certain ways in which texting someone could be professional. However, I did know about how you should be emailing someone in a professional matter. 5) The author depicts “rhetorical’ as a way of people talking and depicts “rhetorical” situations to when they’re occurring. 6) What the author means by a map is that you require to learn a new type of genre or writing style in order to learn more and understand the true meaning behind what writing really is.

  14. Tania Natali Cedillo

    The rhetoric and genre expert to me was a very interesting and for the detail. Although the expert was long and lengthy it was very nice and stood out to me because the author made it clear to his audience, us as college students and several others to learn about rhetoric. The author wrote this piece for his audience that’s been having problems with both reading a writing because as humans we learn at different paces. What authors mean when they say “ writing helps people get things done, which makes writing more powerful”. Depends on people, as where they come from because as mentioned we all learn a different paces. I agree with this statement because we use writing in our day-to-day life. The writing will solely depends on us and our overall skills to deliver the message across. He discusses rules for writing to being applied to a situation where it’s needed such as proofreading a draft. As well as knowing more about the types of writing languages and types of formats. The author describes the concepts of rhetoric and rhetorical. Rhetoric situations is something that gradually becomes clear over time. Rhetorical refers to instance and reoccurring. Genres are like maps in the way that they can lead to many outlets and have different purposes.

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