Robert Francis Notes as the class was going on and conversations.
Continuing the discussion on the destroyer.
Mentioning political turmoil in Philadelphia, military getting involved and placed under curfew.
Movie was watched for today.
Adding additional information from last classes discussion.
What are the places in the text most compelled by in “the destroyer”?
The part where Josefine was at the burning of Washington dc. (near the end of text) 4th to last page
That whole section visually is really striking
Max: makes the reader wander if the destruction is personal? Justified?
Eye for an eye, is it proportional?
Top right panel in this section, baker is just standing up top.
Massive destruction this whole big country is one massive civil war act
Is incremental change possible? Desirable? Is it the most effective way to reach the end goal? This is a real question.
Do you need to stop patching things up or just start building from something new?
What do folks think about this section max brought up.
There is no right answer because it is complicated.
Max: generally avoiding anarchy is a good thing. No matter what kind of grievance anybody has destroying should not be the first thing to come to mind.
Jill: people talk about these issues “anarchy” conversations sort of get diluted.
Root of anarchy: without rule/ free for all
These next two weeks is really going to be about politics and the election.
Khoury: feels like anarchy comes of more scarcely.
Jill: anarchy is on one end of the spectrum and incremental changes is going into the other side.
Moving on …
6 section: chapter 1: the emergence of the destroyer from the Antarctic.
Tommy: the destroyer is reminded of his hatred towards humanity. Avenges the death of the whales by killing the fisherman. On the other ship he learns what happened during his hibernation.
Jill: chapter 2 showing us these abstract questions with these technology on who has the right to do what she has been doing. In 1799 in Ireland. We get a flashback to the story of Frankenstein beginning of the 1818 novel.
Back to the present we see the destroyer in New Mexico traversing the terrain reaching the us border and breaches the border. Waiting the us soil were mercenaries waiting to murder any illegal crossers. They got whipped out by the destroyer. Everybody dies.
Next page in Montana, Josephine’s residents where her lab is.
At the end of chapter 2 we have a striking image of the son coming back to life
Chapter 3 is a flashback; we see like the last day Akai is alive and how he lives it out.
Quick switch to Montana seeing Akai’s current state. Reanimated after his death.
We also see a little bit later where the police come and tell jo about her sons’ death.
We see the moments where bakers rage develops.
Baker said that she has been treated in two ways, either invisible or as an angry black woman.
Grief is what drove Frankenstein to create the monster not by hubris.
People referred to Frankenstein for hubris because he was seen to be playing god. That is so far from the truth. He was driven by grief because of the loss of his mother.
Max: Anarchy vs incremental change better yet vs the status code?
Ronald: With today’s technology we can change things that we could not before.
Khoury: Anarchy is more so changed as a violent and fast passed nature. Status code is when people just accepting things the way they are.
Jill: what is the status code is anarchy? Where is it possible to this to happen? If we are going to have change is it sustainable to move forward and evolve? Is it possible to happen on a granger scale? This is seen across in the world where communities break of from the norm of ways of living. The question is always about scalability, is it able to do this? Is there some kind of big break or is it sustainable?
Chapter 4: flash back section when both baker and pliers work together and fall for each other. The director shares tat the achievement of your life leads to your happiness.
Chapter 5: pliers confronts the officer in the park on the bench.
Tommy: he is acting out his own revenge towards the officer that killed Akai. Using nanobots but changes his mind because of the way the officer raised his daughter on the right track with no judgement. However, leaves one nanobot as insurance if the officer ever dose anything wrong in Pliers opinion he could just flip the switch and remotely kill him at any time.
Baker brings up that this country does not give a rat’s ass about her or her son.
Discussing about the movie and asked if this movie as made people moved in an emotional way?
Come to class with a central question from last class.
From Max Lobdell to Everyone:Â 12:29 PM
“Is it worth it?”
From Ronald Gordon to Everyone:Â 12:30 PM
Can Science fix Everything?
From Xavier Jiang to Everyone:Â 12:30 PM
central question: who has a more valuable life or who should live?
From Phillip Persky to Everyone:Â 12:30 PM
Do the ends justify the means??
From Tommy Su to Everyone:Â 12:30 PM
Did the ending fit the narrative that the story was trying to display?
From Oscar Abundez to Everyone:Â 12:30 PM
Was CJ’s attempt to save people she loved, a form of Cassandras phenomena?
From Me to Everyone:Â 12:30 PM
who determines who life is more valuable then others
From Shamach campbell to Everyone:Â 12:30 PM
should you really be messing with time?
From Justin N Ynfante to Everyone:Â 12:30 PM
Is life more worth it than what we think?
From Khoury Douglas to Everyone:Â 12:30 PM
Is there acceptance in the things that we do?
From Edward Alston to Everyone:Â 12:31 PM
What are the effects of using time travel to change the past?
From Arin Tang to Everyone:Â 12:31 PM
is it morally right to bring someone back to life?
A lot of these questions are about ethics and morality.
This movie came out relatively close to when Floyd died
Minute 4:54 time travel is the biggest ethical conundrum. They say during our jump back we won’t change anything.
After the first time-travel back CJ throws slushies at her ex, resulting in him getting hit by a car.
Minute 27:42 we did not invent tie travel for you to get back at your boyfriend.
The major characters in this text, produces by Spike Lee:
CJ, young woman seeking a scholarship for school in science.
Sabastian, CJ best friend has moral implication in his mind, not as driven as her though.
Calvin, he looks over her since dad in not in the picture. 19-year-old man
Edwardo
Carlos
Carlie
Jared, Bully romantic involvement with CJ
Mr. Tomas Grandfather of Sabastian
Kim, minor character
Granny
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